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Mathe-Ass ist #FreieSoftware unter #GPL, die Quellen sind komplett in hg.sr.ht/~arnebab/draketo/brow

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@burnoutqueen the problem is that #enforcing #copyleft doesn't get you a single line of code improvements.

In an ideal world it would, but we all know that's not the case.

  • Consider #BSD-licensed alternatives a competiton, which is more likely to get contributions back (again, Rob Landley can most likely attest to that) from corporations and see it as a motivation for copyleft-licensed projects to step up their game!
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en el #hacklab de @csolaenre

estamos cocinando con mucho #amor #copyleft y libertario las siguientes actividades

Taller 2 Inteligencia artificial libre ( automatas y entrenamiento propio )
Abril - Mayo de 2025

Rebelion de los artefactos
28 de Marzo de 2025

Selfhosting de mensajeria TALLER FINAL ! Resumen de los 3 anteriores + MATRIX & SIMPLEX
Abril - Mayo de 2025
ven y haz tu propuesta taller !

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I want every program that’s required to participate productively in society to be #FreeSoftware

Because Free Software allows me to avoid direct remote control of what I can do. And it enables me to help others with my #programming skills.

That’s why I think we need #copyleft. Ideally the #AGPL, because only that keeps webservices free. And those are programs, too.

(a discussion got me thinking why I contribute to FLOSS projects; besides wanting to share what I create, this is the reason)

#GNU and the #FSF have been fighting for copyleft the past decades. But if you look at their financial statement, you’ll see that their paid staff are just a dozen people. All the others are volunteers.

The Tor project alone has more employees than the FSF. Github has almost 6000 employees. Six thousand.

So the advocates for #copyleft must be us. We can’t point at the FSF and say “they didn’t do it”. They provide resources. We have to use them to protect our freedom as users.

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@BrodieOnLinux

10 years later...

"...and that's why Microsoft are doodoo heads and should share their improved version of uutils.

Mark Shurtleworth."

This comment brought to you by the "#GPL is still awesome #copyleft" gang.

I do not know how they would make it all that better, or if at that point busybox hasn't been fully ported to zig, but I stand by my silly joke.

Remember when online progressive #hacker / #privacy culture was anti-#copyright, anti-intellectual-property, pro-data hoarding and pro-piracy?

When the general utopia was a world where art was shared, free and the public collective property of all of society?

Why has everyone turned into the copyright police and decided "IP enforcement and DRM are good actually and I hope the state police finally does something to crack down on #cybercrime" since the #AI nonsense began?

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@mjg59 so for me, there are valid use-cases both for #copyfree / MIT / *BSD licenses or #copleft / #GPL. And especially a "Nobody is going to try to make money on a proprietary fork of an MIT Coreutils" would be a valid, plausible reason for me to choose a #copyfree license. Without thinking it would undermine the mission of #copyleft / #GPL.

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@mjg59 my take on #copyleft vs. #copyfree is: I use the former for "serious", bigger projects. And use the latter, likely even #CC0, for small scripts, tools or projects. Which often more have an educational purpose, where I'm happy if people copy some lines or the whole thing, with no obligations. I don't want people to need to upgrade to copyleft or drag my name for just copying a few lines from those.
Copyleft / GPL is what I prefer for things that I had been working on for several days.

No, an end-user Alice has no legal rights she could enforce against the licensee Mallory of a #Copyleft-licensed work created by Bob.

In other words, if Mallory, for example, fails to provide Alice with the modified source code of Bob's Copyleft-licensed program, Alice is in no position to sue Mallory because Mallory doesn't violate Alice's copyright, but Bob's.

Copyleft only works if Bob cares about Alice. If he doesn't, Mallory may as well tell Alice to just fuck off.

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@mjg59 @greg @glyph

Evolution of existing #copyleft licenses isn't urgent as they do address the issues in this thread pretty well.

The missing part wasn't in the license drafting, but in (a) writing of technically irresistible code under those licenses, & in (b) enforcing the license vigorously if the agreements are breached.

We didn't do enough of (a) & (b) for 20 years & now we're here.

I & my colleagues are plugging away as best we can about all this & we're always open to suggestions.

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@mjg59 @greg @glyph
IMO most comments you're making are about the elephant (er, gnu) in the room. That's certainly a serious problem, but FWIW, I & my colleagues at @conservancy work arduously to leverage #copyleft to defend users against bad corporate behavior & regain user control of your own stuff (rather than mere rhetoric).

Our Vizio suit seeks to adjudicate users' rights to install on their hardware & keep junk out of landfills merely because vendor drops support.
sfconservancy.org/vizio

sfconservancy.orgCopyleft Compliance Projects - Software Freedom ConservancyThe Software Freedom Conservancy provides a non-profit home and services to Free, Libre and Open Source Software (FLOSS) projects.
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@larsmb@mastodon.online

Unfortunately, even #AGPLv3 is full of loopholes. Biggest one is being a different license than #GPLv3.

That's basicaly why I use the #HackingLicense for my code: https://code.tesio.it/p/self-hosting/doh.cgi/file?name=LICENSE.txt&ci=tip

It's both a #copyleft license and a shrink-wrap contract designed to close such loopholes.

@tante@tldr.nettime.org @lproven@vivaldi.net
code.tesio.itdoh.cgi: LICENSE.txt at tip