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:arch: XeroLinux :kdelight:<p>Hey y'all...</p><p>Sorry for not posting any updates recently. Been busy with IRL stuff. Am still hard at work on upcoming releases. </p><p>While <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/Gnome" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Gnome</span></a> will just be receiving QOL changes and tweaks, the flagship <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/KDEPlasma" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>KDEPlasma</span></a> edition will be moving to <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/Wayland" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Wayland</span></a> among other things. Ongoing testing is being done making sure nothing breaks. More to come soon!</p><p><a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/FOSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FOSS</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Linux</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/OpenSource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OpenSource</span></a></p>
Justine SmithiesAnyone else running a <a href="https://snac.smithies.me.uk?t=wayland" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Wayland</a> WM under <a href="https://snac.smithies.me.uk?t=wlroots" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Wlroots</a> and it freezes your computer to the point that nothing works not even switching TTY ? I thought it was <a href="https://snac.smithies.me.uk?t=riverwm" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#RiverWM</a> related but it happens with <a href="https://snac.smithies.me.uk?t=swaywm" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SwayWM</a> too. If I don't start a Wayland session my computer is fine all day. But under Wayland I'm starting to get these random freezes like twice a day and the only cure is to hold the power button. I mean I'm tempted to revert back to X11 for stability so any info or ideas would be gratefully received. Oh and I'm running <a href="https://snac.smithies.me.uk?t=freebsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FreeBSD</a> too.<br>
Matthias<p><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@codemonkeymike" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@codemonkeymike@fosstodon.org</a> For X11 sessions the easiest would probably be putting it into <code>~/.xprofile</code> or <code>/etc/xprofile</code> but not sure whether something similar exists for <a href="https://ibe.social/tags/Wayland" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Wayland</a> 🤔<span><br><br></span><a href="https://ibe.social/tags/Linux" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Linux</a></p>
Jeff Fortin T.<p>Used <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/DisplayCal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DisplayCal</span></a> with my <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ColorMunki" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ColorMunki</span></a> spectro to adjust brightness/contrast/RGB of a VA-type HD monitor tonight; happy I can at least do that basic adjustment, it's miraculous that it works thanks to <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://cosocial.ca/@hub" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>hub</span></a></span>'s Flatpak time capsule of that app. I'm hoping the Python3 version eventually takes over and thrives as a project.</p><p>I hope <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Wayland" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Wayland</span></a> color mngt will bring robust calibration &amp; ICC profiles mngt in <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/GNOME" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GNOME</span></a> someday; colord has been broken for years, and I don't trust my current Xorg-era ICCs either.</p>
/dev/urandom<p>how does a program running in <a href="https://toot.cat/tags/flatpak" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>flatpak</span></a> on <a href="https://toot.cat/tags/wayland" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>wayland</span></a> inform the compositor "oh, i know how to do high-DPI drawing, you don't need to manually upscale my pixels"?</p>
Debacle<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.sdf.org/@doragasu" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>doragasu</span></a></span> </p><p>I would like to try <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Wayland" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Wayland</span></a> one day, but my preferred <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/windowManager" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>windowManager</span></a>, <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/EXWM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EXWM</span></a>, does not yet have an equivalent there 😞 I'm stuck on <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/X11" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>X11</span></a> forever.</p><p><a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Emacs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Emacs</span></a></p>
doragasu<p>After using daily sway-wm (<a href="https://mastodon.sdf.org/tags/Wayland" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Wayland</span></a>) for years, I went back i3-wm (<a href="https://mastodon.sdf.org/tags/xorg" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>xorg</span></a>) for about a week, and I miss Wayland so much. For example on Firefox the scroll is so rough (even scrolling just the tab bar is awful!), while on sway was silk smooth.</p><p>In case you are wondering, I am back to i3-wm because of <a href="https://mastodon.sdf.org/tags/KiCAD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>KiCAD</span></a>, that officially does not support Wayland, and I can confirm it has several nasty problems.</p>
Justine SmithiesPlaying around with <a href="https://snac.smithies.me.uk?t=waybar" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Waybar</a> on my <a href="https://snac.smithies.me.uk?t=freebsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FreeBSD</a> <a href="https://snac.smithies.me.uk?t=thinkpad" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ThinkPad</a>. It's still a WIP but it's getting there.<br><a href="https://snac.smithies.me.uk?t=wayland" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Wayland</a><br>
John Sullivan<p>(and it's possible none of this is <a href="https://social.librem.one/tags/LibreOffice" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>LibreOffice</span></a>'s fault -- maybe <a href="https://social.librem.one/tags/Wayland" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Wayland</span></a> could be to blame? It happens most often upon switching back to the window after being somewhere else)</p>
freedesktop.org<p>It's that time of the year again! The 2025 X.Org Foundation elections are rapidly approaching, which means its time to renew your membership! Head to <a href="https://members.x.org" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">members.x.org</span><span class="invisible"></span></a> to apply for 2025-2026 membership! <a href="https://floss.social/tags/OpenSource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OpenSource</span></a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/Graphics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Graphics</span></a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/Wayland" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Wayland</span></a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/Mesa3D" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Mesa3D</span></a></p>
Pekka Paalanen<p><a href="https://zamundaaa.github.io/colormanagement/2025/03/31/about-brightness.html" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">zamundaaa.github.io/colormanag</span><span class="invisible">ement/2025/03/31/about-brightness.html</span></a> by <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://discuss.tchncs.de/u/Zamundaaa" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Zamundaaa</span></a></span> is a really nice post about <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/HDR" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>HDR</span></a> luminance on <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/wayland" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>wayland</span></a>. The corollary is that we have a protocol where the distinction between SDR and HDR content does not exist. It all makes perfect sense to me theoretically, but I am greatly interested in seeing how it will fare in practice with end users.</p>
DelegateVoid<p>The reason I am looking into <a href="https://mastodon.gamedev.place/tags/automation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>automation</span></a> with <a href="https://mastodon.gamedev.place/tags/gnome" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>gnome</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.gamedev.place/tags/ubuntu" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ubuntu</span></a> is because I'm building a prototype control panel to further streamline my multi-monitor/multi-workspace workflow. </p><p>If it looks blunt, that's because I'm not an artist, design will come later.</p><p>Right now I can switch workspaces, activate windows and control media playback. </p><p>Works better on <a href="https://mastodon.gamedev.place/tags/x11" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>x11</span></a> than <a href="https://mastodon.gamedev.place/tags/wayland" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>wayland</span></a> though. It's one of the few places where I I am thinking: "This would have been a lot easier in Windows".</p>
DelegateVoid<p>I'm looking into some <a href="https://mastodon.gamedev.place/tags/automation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>automation</span></a> on <a href="https://mastodon.gamedev.place/tags/ubuntu" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ubuntu</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.gamedev.place/tags/gnome" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>gnome</span></a> desktop. I figured I'd be able to do everything using <a href="https://mastodon.gamedev.place/tags/dbus" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>dbus</span></a>. <br>It works great for media control but not so much for virtual desktop / window management. I can use <a href="https://mastodon.gamedev.place/tags/wmctrl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>wmctrl</span></a> to nativate between virtual desktops but window management doesn't work on <a href="https://mastodon.gamedev.place/tags/wayland" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>wayland</span></a>. Then there is <a href="https://mastodon.gamedev.place/tags/ydotool" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ydotool</span></a> which also doesn't seem to work well.</p><p>Now I can<br> - Control media via dbus<br> - Switch workspaces via wmctrl </p><p>But I feel there has to be a better way?</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.gamedev.place/tags/csharp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>csharp</span></a></p>
Ivan Molodetskikh<p>A secret niri v25.02 feature! Make your floating windows FLOAT by putting this in your config:</p><p>window-rule {<br> match is-floating=true<br> baba-is-float true<br>}</p><p>Works in the nix flake too :blobcat: </p><p><a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/niri" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>niri</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/wayland" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>wayland</span></a></p>
Felix Palmen :freebsd: :c64:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://bsd.network/@thomasadam" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>thomasadam</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@peppe" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>peppe</span></a></span> Thanks for that! I totally forgot about the decorations topic, which is of course very relevant, it means even jumping through the hoop and implementing a <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/wayland" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>wayland</span></a> compositor, you can only deliver part of the functionality (and almost none of the looks) of your window manager.</p><p>But even with that issue solved, I would really dislike wayland's design. Although I *do* think that most of <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/X11" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>X11</span></a> core drawing is obsolete and useless (mostly for the missing alpha channel), I think a display server should offer drawing facilities. Replace X with something dropping lots of cruft (indexed palettes, COMPOUND_TEXT, etc), instead incorporate extensions that everyone needs these days, extend <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/XRender" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XRender</span></a> (now as part of core) to offer more drawing primitives, etc ... you could have a replacement for X11 that's worth dealing with. And window managers could still be separate clients.</p>
Ethan Black<p>Successor to <a href="https://social.librem.one/tags/Nouveau" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Nouveau</span></a> for <a href="https://social.librem.one/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Linux</span></a> and... <a href="https://social.librem.one/tags/HaikuOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>HaikuOS</span></a> (yay!)?<br>I sure hope <a href="https://social.librem.one/tags/Wayland" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Wayland</span></a> works with it just fine, unlike Nouveau (at least on my <a href="https://social.librem.one/tags/Nvidia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Nvidia</span></a> 1660 TI).</p><p><a href="https://www.theregister.com/2025/03/28/haiku_linux_foss_nvidia_drivers/?td=keepreading" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">theregister.com/2025/03/28/hai</span><span class="invisible">ku_linux_foss_nvidia_drivers/?td=keepreading</span></a></p><p><a href="https://social.librem.one/tags/OSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OSS</span></a> <a href="https://social.librem.one/tags/FOSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FOSS</span></a></p>
Justine SmithiesAfter having had the same style bar for the past 5+ years I think it's time to change it out for something a little different from my normal white text on a semitransparent black bar. I'm also going to give <a href="https://snac.smithies.me.uk?t=waybar" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Waybar</a> another chance instead of using <a href="https://snac.smithies.me.uk?t=eww" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Eww</a> .<br><a href="https://snac.smithies.me.uk?t=runbsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#RunBSD</a> <a href="https://snac.smithies.me.uk?t=wayland" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Wayland</a> <a href="https://snac.smithies.me.uk?t=freebsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FreeBSD</a><br>
Justine SmithiesHa ! Just built <a href="https://snac.smithies.me.uk?t=labwc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Labwc</a> from their git repo on <a href="https://snac.smithies.me.uk?t=freebsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FreeBSD</a> and it worked like a charm. I expected to hit problems but no. I now have the very latest commit version.<br><a href="https://snac.smithies.me.uk?t=runbsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#RunBSD</a> <a href="https://snac.smithies.me.uk?t=wayland" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Wayland</a> <a href="https://snac.smithies.me.uk?t=windowmanager" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#WindowManager</a><br>
Justine SmithiesOther than <span class="h-card"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/users/whynothugo" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@whynothugo@fosstodon.org</a></span> <a href="https://snac.smithies.me.uk?t=shotman" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Shotman</a> are there any other <a href="https://snac.smithies.me.uk?t=cli" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#CLI</a> <a href="https://snac.smithies.me.uk?t=wayland" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Wayland</a> screenshot utilities that will take a screenshot of just the active output and not both? I know you can do this with grim on sway by supplying it with the currently focused output but I want to know about other screenshot CLI clients that actually get that info themselves without requiring the WM to have IPC and so on.<br>
Nick Yamane<p>Chromium now has initial, experimental support for the xdg-session-management <a href="https://social.coop/tags/wayland" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>wayland</span></a> protocol, which will start shipping in canary channel in the coming days. I've implemented and tested it against Mutter 48, the only compositor supporting it atm - also experimentally - since version 47.</p><p>Quick demo at <a href="https://youtu.be/OG9ZLXzlwkQ" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">youtu.be/OG9ZLXzlwkQ</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p><a href="https://social.coop/tags/chromium" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>chromium</span></a> <a href="https://social.coop/tags/wayland" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>wayland</span></a> <a href="https://social.coop/tags/linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>linux</span></a> <a href="https://social.coop/tags/gnome" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>gnome</span></a> <a href="https://social.coop/tags/opensource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>opensource</span></a> <a href="https://social.coop/tags/foss" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>foss</span></a></p>